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Re: Vectors (cpu type idea)

by "Wolfgang Kern" <nowhere@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 1, 2008 at 08:50 PM

"cr88192" wrote:

[...code styles and performance]

>> ....I think professional programmers reason for using ASM
>> instead of any HLL "is" performance.

> but, typically this is for very confined and specific tasks (where the
> effort can be directed into making it fast, rather than making it in the
> first place).
> it is likely that few, if any, modern large-scale commercial projects
are
> done purely in assembler.
> for example, it was commonly the case that, for example, much of a 3D
> engine would be done in C, and some of the core rendering code
> (such as the rasterizer, ...) was done in assembler.

Sure, merchants usually calculate sharp and wont spend more than
the minimum required. Qualified ASM coders are rare and expensive.

>> Ok, assembler isn't the lowest possible level and will lack on limits
>> given by used libraries, but we can always avoid Libs.

> usually, there is not much good reason to use machine code, unless for
> some reason assembler isn't conviniently available (such as in many JIT
> compilers, ...).

My reason for using machine code is just that I'm familiar with it
since many years and the output is always shorter 'and' faster than
any compiler produced code, and it saves me on many keystrokes too.

> even then, for example, I started out writing specific functions for
> munging together specific opcodes, and eventually ended up writing a
> whole damn assembler anyways...

I can confirm this, almost all tools I use are own made ...


[****tability of hw-drivers ...]

>> Who will optimises these (dll) libraries ?
>> Vendor drivers are obviously written in HLL and whenever I disassemble
>> one of these, I find bloated detouring BS for no reason.
>> Feel free to check this yourself on any windoze driver.

> but, the question is whether or not the drivers are actually faster and
> smaller this way than they would have been otherwise?...

Just check it out by disassembling any of your windoze drivers.
After the first few lines you'll see what I mean.

[...power] many things are possible, let's see what future will be.

[...guns]
Prohibition for private guns is a damned good law for me,
I'd used it for sure, but nasty words can kill as well.

[robots and androids]
>> Why should machines showup/act human like ?
....
I see your point, seems you are low on friends.
....

>> or 37C warm cheap whores ?
> yes, that is likely to be a market as well.

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:) and of course all controls were coded in hex ...

__
wolfgang
 




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mcjason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-17 07:21:04 
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santosh <santosh.k83@[  2008-07-17 20:16:58 
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Phil Carmody <thefatph  2008-07-18 03:05:43 
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mcjason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-17 19:19:22 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-07-18 03:41:09 
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"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-19 11:13:29 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-19 22:41:58 
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"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-19 17:22:45 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-20 13:21:22 
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"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-20 11:38:38 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-21 01:01:13 
Re: Vectors (cpu type idea)
"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-20 19:11:00 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-21 10:03:59 
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"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-21 11:29:37 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-22 21:41:15 
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"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-22 19:33:20 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-23 10:24:48 
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"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-23 12:10:42 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-23 22:59:43 
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"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-24 15:09:30 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-25 15:15:05 
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"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-25 10:31:38 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-25 20:56:16 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-07-26 05:06:08 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-27 23:22:46 
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"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-27 15:03:20 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-30 13:44:09 
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"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-30 14:13:32 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-30 23:41:01 
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"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-08-01 20:50:15 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-07-26 05:06:17 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-28 00:15:52 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-07-27 18:02:08 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-30 17:48:02 
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"Rod Pemberton"  2008-07-30 05:40:08 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-30 21:39:04 
Re: Vectors (cpu type idea)
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-07-31 05:20:26 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-31 22:57:42 
Re: Vectors (cpu type idea)
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-07-27 18:23:03 
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"cr88192" <c  2008-07-30 18:20:44 
Re: cpu type idea
Chuck Crayne <ccrayne@  2008-07-17 20:03:56 
Re: cpu type idea
Phil Carmody <thefatph  2008-07-18 12:15:07 
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mcjason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-17 20:46:21 
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Chuck Crayne <ccrayne@  2008-07-17 21:57:18 
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"Jim Carlock" &  2008-07-18 11:42:30 
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"rio" <a@[EM  2008-07-18 07:52:23 
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mcjason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-18 02:01:51 
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mcjason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-18 02:37:45 
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mcjason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-18 02:42:05 
Re: cpu type idea
"Alexei A. Frounze&q  2008-07-18 02:50:59 
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mcjason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-18 03:16:46 
Re: cpu type idea
Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-07-18 12:42:57 
Re: Vectors (cpu type idea)
mcjason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-20 16:34:44 
CPU type idea
mcjason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-20 16:42:31 
Re: CPU type idea
"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-21 10:04:05 
Re: CPU type idea
"Alexei A. Frounze&q  2008-07-21 11:51:15 
Re: CPU type idea
"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-21 22:53:48 
Re: CPU type idea
"Alexei A. Frounze&q  2008-07-21 20:08:38 
Re: CPU type idea
"Wolfgang Kern"  2008-07-22 11:21:00 
Re: CPU type idea
mcjason@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-22 01:52:22 
Re: CPU type idea
"Rod Pemberton"  2008-07-22 17:15:41 
Re: CPU type idea
"Alexei A. Frounze&q  2008-07-22 02:19:20 
Re: Vectors (cpu type idea)
NathanCBaker@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-30 18:14:28 
Re: Vectors (cpu type idea)
"cr88192" <c  2008-07-31 11:27:54 
Re: Vectors (cpu type idea)
Frank Kotler <fbkotler  2008-07-31 04:19:36 
Re: Vectors (cpu type idea)
"cr88192" <c  2008-07-31 23:02:54 
Re: Vectors (cpu type idea)
NathanCBaker@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-30 19:10:26 
Re: Vectors (cpu type idea)
NathanCBaker@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-08-01 12:53:13 

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