"cr88192" <cr88192@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I suspect that this kind of thing is a kind of common human dream, to
always
> have something or someone lower that can be denigrated, despised, and
> exploited, so that people can be better and rise above those who are
below
> themselves.
....
But, is that how most people act when they do have something lower? I'd
say, "No." We have pets. The vast majority of people treat them
humanely.
But, yes, some do as you said. However, some even treat them as humans...
> for example, when there are near-human androids, then probably most
people
> will be able to give up, for example, their despise of blacks, jews, ...
in
> the form of finding something new to despise...
Or, more likely, they just add another group to the list: androids. They
most likely will add a few other groups to the list: scientists who
created
them... politicians who legalized them... judges who sup****ted them...
police who protected them... When you have tens of thousands of extremely
upset Americans, those people are dead.
> > If you create intelligent androids, you'll make the situation worse.
> > There
> > will be plenty of newly unemployed Americans, in addition to the
abundance
> > of poor workers already here, that will be available for work. You'd
need
> > to solve the "how to provide an equitable lifestyle to most Americans
> > without them working" problem prior to unlea****ng numerous androids
into
> > the
> > workforce. I.e., you'd need to find a solution that would put an end
> > capitalism and monetization of goods and services, without resorting
to
> > communism or socialism, etc. IMO, that would require the ability to
> > produce
> > a huge set of identical resources and custom resources from which each
> > individual would choose what they want and need. The identical
resource
> > problem can't be solved for things which are rare. But, for many
things,
> > it
> > can be. With a zero-cost, infinite source of electrons, nearly all
> > manufacturing and farming could progress to an exceptionally low cost
> > structure. With such a source of electrons, you could purify ore for
> > free,
> > manufacture pure water, farm food in skyscrapers with lighting, make
fuels
> > and medicines, etc. etc. on a huge scale for little or no cost. The
> > remaining costs for many industries would just be any human labor and
any
> > limited natural resources. Such an energy source, one that is far far
far
> > beyond the needs of humanity for thousands of years, could set the
ground
> > work for such a society.
> >
>
> that or the remaining workforce either has to strive to work in higher
> industries,
How much higher industry does a country need (as a percentage of the
population)? 10%? 30%? 70%? At some point, it's becomes obvious that
you've got more higher industry than what's needed in reality... That
leaves a large part of the population unemployable.
> or compete with the mechanized workforce.
As you pointed out, that's not cost effective for employers... ;-) And,
of
course, if the android is highly intelligent, because it's most profitable
for the manufacturer to make them that way, it's not cost effective to
hire
people for higher industry... since they (humans) won't be as bright as
the
android, will exhibit random variation in intellect, skills, and
performance, and will cost much more to employ.
> labor then becomes a
> commodity resource of sorts...
What do you do with lots of people who have nothing to do and no way to
earn
a living? I.e., if we can't solve the problem for small inner city gangs
(25-50K people per large city), how to we handle 30%, 50%, or 90% of 350
(or
so) million Americans?
> then again, modern technologies have largely eliminated many kinds of
jobs
> as well (cotton picking, factory workers, meat-processing workers,
textile
> workers, m***** of people calculating numbers and filling in charts and
> tables, ...), these jobs are not well missed.
Many of those jobs still exist. It's just that fewer of them exist in
America... Many of them have been moved to lower cost locations. Factory
and meat-processing still exist on a large scale in the US, but not as
large
as a century ago... E.g., we don't ex****t cattle to be processed in a
foreign abattoir, just to be reim****ted. etc.
Rod Pemberton
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